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caitriCut for spoilers, potentially triggery discussion.
Okay let's talk about incarcerated women, shall we? We see two of them in the film: Talia's mom and Selena. Talia gets to see her Mom pulled away for a gang rape after which she dies (though, in retrospect...that doctor could engineer some stuff up for Bane but not for her, huh? WTF patriarchy?). Then we see Selena go to prison; they explicitly say it's all male because it's so easy for her to break out of women's correction centers. This is immediately followed with the dialogue of "it's okay, she knows how to take care of herself."
Um.
So...does anyone else read this as reinforcing the onus of "it's your own fault if you get raped"? Cos that's kind of what I see here.
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Another thing that really struck me is how the international actors are coded within the broader context of the film. Tom Hardy (English), Liam Neeson (Irish), and Marion Cotillard (French) all get elided into the vaguely middle-easteriness of it all. (Question: Did anyone catch where the prison was supposed to be?) In contrast, Michael Caine is the good guy, but he's the Cockney who calls Bruce "Master" and only wants him to be personally happy.
'Kay.
And then there's the whole only-Bruce-can-be-trusted-with-the-nuke issue.
Let's contrast this with the Avengers briefly.
The Avengers are a nominally international body: Cap, Iron Man, and Hawkeye are Americans; Black Widow is formerly Russian; Bruce is essentially a wandering ex-pat; Thor is a legalized alien. *G* SHIELD itself is a bit fuzzy--there's that "Homeland" in the title but Fury's bosses are pretty clearly an international group itself. In the comics SHIELD is basically one or two steps above Interpol, which can similarly be assumed here given the ease with which Cap and Widow go into German civilian airspace. Of course, they too have to deal with a nuke at the end and only the wealthy billionaire industrialist can take care of it.
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So. Thoughts? Comments? Flung produce?
Okay let's talk about incarcerated women, shall we? We see two of them in the film: Talia's mom and Selena. Talia gets to see her Mom pulled away for a gang rape after which she dies (though, in retrospect...that doctor could engineer some stuff up for Bane but not for her, huh? WTF patriarchy?). Then we see Selena go to prison; they explicitly say it's all male because it's so easy for her to break out of women's correction centers. This is immediately followed with the dialogue of "it's okay, she knows how to take care of herself."
Um.
So...does anyone else read this as reinforcing the onus of "it's your own fault if you get raped"? Cos that's kind of what I see here.
~
Another thing that really struck me is how the international actors are coded within the broader context of the film. Tom Hardy (English), Liam Neeson (Irish), and Marion Cotillard (French) all get elided into the vaguely middle-easteriness of it all. (Question: Did anyone catch where the prison was supposed to be?) In contrast, Michael Caine is the good guy, but he's the Cockney who calls Bruce "Master" and only wants him to be personally happy.
'Kay.
And then there's the whole only-Bruce-can-be-trusted-with-the-nuke issue.
Let's contrast this with the Avengers briefly.
The Avengers are a nominally international body: Cap, Iron Man, and Hawkeye are Americans; Black Widow is formerly Russian; Bruce is essentially a wandering ex-pat; Thor is a legalized alien. *G* SHIELD itself is a bit fuzzy--there's that "Homeland" in the title but Fury's bosses are pretty clearly an international group itself. In the comics SHIELD is basically one or two steps above Interpol, which can similarly be assumed here given the ease with which Cap and Widow go into German civilian airspace. Of course, they too have to deal with a nuke at the end and only the wealthy billionaire industrialist can take care of it.
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So. Thoughts? Comments? Flung produce?
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Date: 2012-07-25 03:53 pm (UTC)Right then. I thought the thirty seconds of Talia and Bane's backstory was more interesting than either of the other emotional plots. Michael Caine was perhaps the best thing about the film, and he NAILED that breakdown scene early on--I just thought that Bale's response was horrible. Like, were the actors in the same frakking room when they did that?? Because WTF!
I've seen some wank from people about Bruce's happy ending being all Inceptioney--was Alfred just imagining it? NGL, I think that would have been way more interesting than the pair ditching their old identities and chilling in Europe.